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bandini
05-06-2010, 02:49 PM
The following is a list of some Italian surnames indicating geographical origin (both foreign and Italian) with the relevant Gens Labo (http://www.gens.labo.net/) graph.

There are more local variants both North and south I haven't included, these the major groups.

Nota bene: When you see a surname massively present both in North-Western Italy industrial area and Southern Italy or Sicily, in general you may assume it's a Southern surname.

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ALBANESE (Albanian)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=ALBANESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=A

BULGARI (Bulgar)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=BULGARI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=B

POLCARI (Bulgar)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=POLCARI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

CATALANO (Catalan)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CATALANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=C

ARAGONA (Aragon)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=ARAGONA&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=A

CASTIGLIA (Castilla)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CASTIGLIA&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=C

SPAGNOL (Spaniard)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SPAGNOL&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S

SPAGNOLI (Spaniard)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SPAGNOLI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S

SPAGNOLO (Spaniard)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SPAGNOLO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S

FRANZESE (French)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=FRANZESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=F

DI FRANCIA (French)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=DI_FRANCIA&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=D

CASCONE (Gascon)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CASCONE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=C

GRECO (Greek)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=GRECO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=G

INGLESE (English)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=INGLESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=I

SCHIAVONE (From Slavonia, covered Croats, Slavs and Albanians.)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SCHIAVONE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S

SCHIAVONI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SCHIAVONI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S

TEDESCO (German)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TEDESCO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T

TEDESCHI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TEDESCHI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T

TODESCO (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TODESCO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T

TURCO (Turk)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TURCO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T

ZINGARO (Gypsy)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=ZINGARO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=Z


To be continued with surnames indicating Italian geographical origin.

Heraus
05-06-2010, 03:04 PM
Very interesting yet one has to be careful : medieval first names could be based on nationalities and then got to be surnames. Some of these first names have escaped oblivion such as Francis ("French"). Nowadays, nobody is ever named "Angles(a)", "Alemand(a)" or "Spagnol(a)".

A surname like Turco for instance could only mean "brunet" like Mauro. Schiavone seems to be obvious though. As for French nationalities, the following surnames do exist but are quite rare : Provenzale, Provenzali, Guascone, Guasconi, Navarro, Bretone, Bretoni, Tolosano (?), Limosini (?), Fiandri (?), Baschi (?), Savoiardo, Savoiardi, Normanni, Parigiano, Alverno (?), ...

Kadu
05-06-2010, 03:17 PM
Well Bandini, I guess there are too many Portoghese:D in Italy to fit in those tiny maps.

bandini
05-06-2010, 03:22 PM
Very interesting yet one has to be careful : medieval first names could be based on nationalities and then got to be surnames. Some of these first names have escaped oblivion such as Francis ("French"). Nowadays, nobody is ever named "Angles(a)", "Alemand(a)" or "Spagnol(a)".

A surname like Turco for instance could only mean "brunet" like Mauro. Schiavone seems to be obvious though. As for French nationalities, the following surnames do exist but are quite rare : Provenzale, Provenzali, Guascone, Guasconi, Navarro, Bretone, Bretoni, Tolosano (?), Limosini (?), Fiandri (?), Baschi (?), Savoiardo, Savoiardi, Normanni, Parigiano, Alverno (?), ...

Of course a pinch of salt is needed.

These surnames were handed down generation after generation, when most probably the ancestor had only a passing contact with the relevant ethnicity.

The nickname/surname than sticked to the following generations.

There interesting trends, though.

bandini
05-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Well Bandini, I guess there are too many Portoghese:D in Italy to fit in those tiny maps.

We could well say Italy is a nation of Portoghesi :p

Here come the Portuguese :)

PORTOGHESE (Portuguese)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PORTOGHESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

PORTOGHESI

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PORTOGHESI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

PORTOGALLO (Portugal)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PORTOGALLO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

bandini
05-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Here we have some surnames indicating an Italian origin.

GENOVESE (Genoa)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=GENOVESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=G


DI GENOVA (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=DI_GENOVA&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=D

MILANESE (Milan)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=MILANESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=M

MILANESI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=MILANESI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=M

MILANO

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=MILANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=M


MILANI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=MILANI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=M

LOMBARDO (from Lombardy)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=LOMBARDO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=L

PIEMONTESE (from Piedmont)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PIEMONTESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

PIEMONTESI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PIEMONTESI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P


VENEZIANO (Venice)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=VENEZIANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=V

VENEZIANI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=VENEZIANI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=V

TREVISAN (Treviso, Veneto)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TREVISAN&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T

FURLAN (Friulan)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=FURLAN&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=F

TOSCANO (Tuscanian)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TOSCANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T


TOSCANI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TOSCANI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T

FIORENTINO (Florentine)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=FIORENTINO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=F

FIORENTINI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=FIORENTINI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=F

PISANO (from Pisa)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PISANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

PISANI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PISANI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

LUCCHESE (from Lucca, Tuscany)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=LUCCHESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=L

SENESE (from Siena, Tuscany)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SENESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S


SENESI (same as above)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SENESI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S

ROMANO (Roman, I'm including it just for the record, can be many things)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=ROMANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=R

NAPOLITANO (Neapolitan)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=NAPOLITANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=N

ABRUZZESE (from Abruzzi)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=ABRUZZESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=A


PUGLIESE (from Apulia)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=PUGLIESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=P

CALABRESE (Calabrian)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CALABRESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=C


SICILIANO (Sicilian)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=SICILIANO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=S

bandini
05-06-2010, 04:03 PM
This one's for Cymru :)

GALLESE (Welsh)

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=GALLESE&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=G

fulvioterzapi
05-06-2010, 04:05 PM
ahah, Bandini you must be the anti-Heraus: while he's uncomfortable with the idea of massive migrations before XX sec, you are pushing too hard the opposite concept. many of those surnames were just nicknames, I doubt all the people called Bulgaro, Bulgari, Bulgarelli, Ungaro, Ongaro, Ongarato etc. were originally from Bulgaria or Hungary just like all those called Francese, Francesi, Francioso, Franciosi, Franciosa or even Franco, Franchi, Franchini etc. were originally from France (in that case Heraus would be extremely dismayed http://forum.politicainrete.net/images/smilies/extend/446.gif).

Heraus
05-06-2010, 04:12 PM
ahah, Bandini you must be the anti-Heraus: while he's uncomfortable with the idea of massive migrations before XX sec
???

I'm not uncomfortable with the idea, I know many cases of migrations in France (be it the Poitevin migrations in Saintonge, the Greek settlements in Corsica, the Welsche communities in Alsace, Picard movements in Flanders, Franco migrations into northern Spain...). Just that I don't believe that those migrations were on par with what we experiment these days ; as a consequence they cannot be said to be "massive".

BTW those surnames prove that migrations were above all an individual destiny. A foreigner settling in a village and being named according to his origins.

bandini
05-06-2010, 04:21 PM
ahah, Bandini you must be the anti-Heraus: while he's uncomfortable with the idea of massive migrations before XX sec, you are pushing too hard the opposite concept. many of those surnames were just nicknames, I doubt all the people called Bulgaro, Bulgari, Bulgarelli, Ungaro, Ongaro, Ongarato etc. were originally from Bulgaria or Hungary just like all those called Francese, Francesi, Francioso, Franciosi, Franciosa or even Franco, Franchi, Franchini etc. were originally from France (in that case Heraus would be extremely dismayed http://forum.politicainrete.net/images/smilies/extend/446.gif).

I know well there are a lot of nicknames sticking for centuries, but people did move a lot during the Middle Ages, there are plenty of sources about that (of course you have to gauge the magnitude of such movements.)

In Roman times, you could leave from Naples in the morning and arrive in Rome in the evening.

curiousman
05-06-2010, 04:37 PM
You may not believe it but the surname Tuzzi means German too:

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=TUZZI&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=T



Another strange surname is Furlanich meaning "from Friuli" + the slavic -ich ending

http://www.gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=FURLANICH&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=F

bandini
05-06-2010, 04:46 PM
BTW those surnames prove that migrations were above all an individual destiny. A foreigner settling in a village and being named according to his origins.

This can be true f.e. of the well established Toscano, Fiorentino, Senese merchants, but Middle Ages internal migrations of larger scale are well documented.

Starbuck
05-06-2010, 05:15 PM
POIDOMANI (http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/cognomi0014o.htm)

« Poidomani è un cognome specifico della Sicilia meridionale, di Modica nel ragusano in particolare, ma anche di Ragusa, Ispica e Vittoria nel ragusano e di Rosolini nel siracusano, potrebbe derivare da un'italianizzazione dell'antico termine greco ποιμήν poimen (pastore), probabile mestiere svolto dai capostipiti, troviamo tracce di questa cognominizzazione a Comiso nel ragusano fin dal 1500. »

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2264/gifpg.gif


URTIS (http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/cognomi0019.htm)

« Urtis, molto molto raro, è tipicamente sardo, di Alghero e Macomer nel nuorese, dovrebbe trattarsi di una forma arcaica del cognome catalano Ortiz, una forma patronimica in -iz di un'alterazione aferetica del nome latino Fortis. »

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6061/gifge.gif


VAIR (http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/cognomi0020.htm)

« Vair è tipico di Bussoleno, Borgone Susa, Chianocco ed Almese nel torinese, Vairoli, assolutamente rarissimo, è del verbanese, dovrebbero derivare, direttamente o da aggettivi derivati, dal termine medioevale vair, forma tronca del vocabolo medioevale francese vairié (screziato, chiazzato, macchiato), forse a caratterizzare il fatto che il capostipite possedesse delle particolari macchie o voglie ben visibili. »

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4456/giflz.gif

Ponto
07-23-2010, 07:39 AM
You left out Arabic surnames e.g Modafferi.

All countries have surname indicating foreign origin. All Maltese surnames are of foreign origin, mostly Sicilian derived surnames and that includes the Arabic Semitic surnames which came via the Muslim Sicilians during the "Moorish" times. My Maltese surname probably came from Sicily too, but it has cognates in England, France, Germany and of course Italy, as it is an occupational type surname.

A good thing about Italian surnames is that they usually indicate paternal origin. I checked out a friend's surname, Fadelli, and found it mostly a Northern Italian surname, near Venezia.

Calraige
09-20-2010, 05:28 AM
Some Italian names are of Arab origin, others are of Iberian and some even Germanic/Nordic.